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It may be more useful to think of all of this from the learner’s perspective as Derek and others have noted in this thread.

Your teacher scenario is terrific (and if it’s OK with you, I’ll use it at NUTN) what about a learner interested in socially constructed media and communication?

- Chris

37. leigh blackall - june 6th, 2008 at 7:12 pm

Hmm, logical argument. But - suppose for a moment that there is no difference between teachers and learners. As Derek point out, there is valuable learning opportunity in the process of co creation.. otherwise known as constructionism. So my question should have been:

A question that comes to mind when reading your paper.. why do we need open courseware even!? or OER for that matter? The practical truth is that people are cocreating/remixing/collaborating/communicating/learning via the internet regardless of its copyrights

But this is a useless point of view in the context of business and institution where we have to be mindful of the economic and legal implications of such exchange. So, Derek’s other points make sense for that context.

The thing that concerns me however, is that while we focus on cocreating/remixing/collaborating/communicating/learning in the OER/institutional/professional sense, that we may be unwittingly disengaging ourselves from what goes on outside of that context. We have to admit that FLOSS and similar inspired movements has its fare share of zealots and purists who will not accept engagement with anything but a free and open economy, and I think we should be always discussing that aspect of what we do.

I am noticing it already.. there is a type of educational developer out there that engages with just about anything.. Youtube, Slideshare, Wikipedia, Windows, Mac, Linux, Blip, Archive, GoogleGroups.. and there are educational developers that only engage in Linux, WikimediaFoundation, OER, Free cultural works. I was the anything goes developer, but since hanging out with more extreme freedom fighters I feel that I have disengaged from the other and become consumed by the pure definition and appropriate practices. In so doing, I might be alienating myself from everyday people around me.. its a balancing act is what I’m trying to say…

38. derek keats - june 7th, 2008 at 4:48 am

Hi folks, apologies for not having made much of a contribution yesterday. I came down with a flu or something, and as I have a 29 hour journey ahead of me today, I spent much of it trying to rest and recuperate. Now I have to head off to the airport in a few minutes, and will check back in sometime on Sunday from Michigan.

But I wanted to pick up on the notion that Leigh raised about there being people who refuse to use any content that is not totally copyleft.

We have to admit that FLOSS and similar inspired movements has its fare share of zealots and purists who will not accept engagement with anything but a free and open economy

While this is perhaps a common perception, I am not sure it is true or even could be true if people live on the same planet that I do. To live to those standards with respect to software, you would have to:

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